Gaza & War

As I often said, a war is often beyond right or wrong. It doesn’t matter who throws the first punch, it doesn’t matter if the retaliation is disproportionate, it is a war.

Gaza civilian killed in violence
18-month-old Eyad Abu Khosa, carried by his father Yoused [AP / BBC]

It’s unfortunate, and disheartening, that civilians are usually the heaviest casualties.

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  1. korean_guy says:

    “a war is often beyond right or wrong.”

    If it’s beyond right and wrong then what’s there to talk about? Why post picture of dead Palestinian children? EVERYTHING is about right and wrong!! If you want to make a statement stop posting ridiculous emo-centric meaningless statement!

    • Right or wrong depends on perspective… something that’s right on one side could be horribly wrong on the other end, it’s a matter of choice. If we don’t share similar idea then we can’t agree on lots of things.

      • korean_guy says:

        “Right or wrong depends on perspective”

        Wrong! Right and wrong is based on universal morals (and yes universal morals exists no matter how hard liberals try to deny its existence). Murder is wrong whether you are a Jew, Arab, Nazi or Chinese. So Mao killing 70+million Chinese to champion Marxist ideology was justified? Was Nazi’s murdering of 6 million Jews a justifiable thing because they thought it was ok? What about a rapist who thinks its ok to rape a women of his desire? By your relativistic morals how would you know if your statement “Right or wrong depends on perspective” is correct? We live in a mad world where unrealistic and unlivable ideologies like relativism thrive and is taught in universities: the madness of treating morals like you would choose a flavor of ice cream. Unbelievable!

        • Don’t state the obvious. There are things that are clear cut, there are things that are not.

          Was America doing the right thing with the two atomic bombing?
          Is it right to sentence someone to death for his crime? If it is then to what degree of offences? Murder? Rape? Drug offences?
          Is it right to attack a military base that’s using civilians as meat shield? What options do they have if not?
          Is it right to kill because someone insult your religion? Apparently it is for one of the world’s biggest religion… what say you?
          Is it right for God to punish human because we were arrogant?
          Is it right for Gay marriage? Personally I support this but is it right or wrong just because the majority say so?
          Is it right to elect Obama as President? Obviously you think it’s wrong but majority thinks it’s the right choice. Where’s the right or wrong?

          And universal morals are based on the PERSPECTIVE of the majority. If the majority is overwhelming it becomes the moral standard, and agree or not we’ll have to follow that because it’s the RIGHT thing. But what happens when the opinions are not one-sided enough to be made into a standard?

          Don’t bother reply because I won’t again. With such huge difference of ideology we will never reach any sort of understanding.

          • korean_guy says:

            “Right or wrong depends on perspective”

            ” There are things that are clear cut, there are things that are not.”

            These two statement is vastly contradictory.

            “And universal morals are based on the PERSPECTIVE of the majority”

            Translation: might make right! No then Mao, Stalin and Hitler was justified. Then a rapist is justified because he was stronger.

            Just because one finds themselves in moral complexities does not mean morals are subjective.

            “But what happens when the opinions are not one-sided enough to be made into a standard?”

            Again Jews were the minorities during WWII so does that make their lives lesser than the German? No. Universality of morals isn’t based on popular consensus.

            “Don’t bother reply because I won’t again. With such huge difference of ideology we will never reach any sort of understanding.”

            Typical liberal tactic. Liberals never confront opposing ideas.

            Just stick with posting pop related post. Your emo-centric relativistic non-sense does no one any good.

          • Was America doing the right thing with the two atomic bombing?
            Of course not! Killing thousands of innocent civilians to end a war can never be justified. This was a case of might make right. And what the Japanese did was also evil and immoral.

            Is it right to sentence someone to death for his crime? How is this relevant to the question of the existence of universal morality? Now we are talking about degrees of punishment for an immoral crime. And to answer it, it depends on the heinousness of the crime. And the degree of punishment will have to be set by nations.
            If it is then to what degree of offences? Again this is irrelevant to the question of existence of universal morality. But again it will depend.
            Murder? Murder is wrong and immoral.
            Rape? Rape is wrong and immoral.
            Drug offences? Using drug is bad for you and bad for society, and yes it is wrong.

            Is it right to attack a military base that’s using civilians as meat shield? Not if you know it is being used as a shield.
            What options do they have if not? This is a question for tactic and not relevant to our discussion.
            Is it right to kill because someone insult your religion? Of course not!
            Apparently it is for one of the world’s biggest religion… what say you? Yes Islam is an evil religion.
            Is it right for God to punish human because we were arrogant? IF God exists he is the moral anchor and yes he can smite us for being arrogant.

            Is it right for Gay marriage? Gays can do whatever they want to do. Same sex marriage is like a black man wanting to be considered white by changing the definition of white. It is a endeavor of futility.
            Personally I support this but is it right or wrong just because the majority say so? Same sex marriage advocates really demeans the historical struggles of civil rights in America by saying same sex marriage is a civil issue. Same sex marriage is the dumbest thing to come out in our decaying society. And a society’s embrace of it is an evidence that the society has fell to an all time deprave immoral status.

            Is it right to elect Obama as President? No since he espouse an evil and wrong ideology. Class warfare and fanning its flame has precedence in history.
            Obviously you think it’s wrong but majority thinks it’s the right choice. Majority of the world? Well America at was not founded in mob rule democracy but a Constitution Republic in which Obama and his party have trampled the Constitution for years. He and his party will get rid of God from all aspects of American founding ideas and it will be him who will say who’s valuable and who’s not. America will be like China!
            Where’s the right or wrong? Right and wrong exist. You know it and all your liberal friends know it. Liberals are disingenuous and espouse relativistic morals when it suits their ideology. Liberals like yourself are bankrupt and live on emotions and never listen to the opposing ideas especially when you precious emotions are hurt. You sound like a nice guy. I hope you seriously look at the world, have nothing to do with the growing liberal, leftist, social justice, relativistic moral, pro-same sex, pro-abortion, pro-global warming garbage worldview and become a decent human being.

  2. everything korean_guy says is right, if you don’t follow him you are wrong.

    • “if you don’t follow him you are wrong.”

      I follow what is right and moral.

      • what you say is always right and moral. obama is evil, china is evil, islam is evil. but you are lord, you are our savior, you are our moral anchor.

        • korean_guy says:

          “what you say is always right and moral.”

          No, I do my best to follow right and follow morality.

          ” obama is evil, china is evil, islam is evil.”

          Obama espouses immoral Marxist ideology.
          China is an immoral country lead by idiot jackass CCP thugs.
          Islam is a sadistic, blood-thirsty, demon influenced, evil religion.

          “but you are lord, you are our savior, you are our moral anchor.”

          No I am not Lord and Savior but Jaimie Fox thinks Obama is LORD and Savior.

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