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		<title>By: melia</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-8447</link>
		<dc:creator>melia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after reading the above article by this Indonesian PHD student, among things i can say is; even this future professor does not really understand and went much deeper in his understandings about the real cause of this problem. somehow as an Indonesian, he is emotionally driven and carried away. 

I, myself, as a Malaysian, shall admit it that in looking into this thing, maybe to some levels, i will tend to defend my own country, Malaysia. but what i can say is, let us look into the problem with a just mind. not by manipulating things to make them appear bigger. 


it is obvious as an indonesian, he tends to ignore Malaysia&#039;s side of the story. or maybe he does not quite know what  is actually happening in our country, caused by indonesian workers. 

Indonesian workers in Malaysia, are very well- known as trouble-makers. about 1.2million indonesian workers coming to Malaysia each year using proper documents (pasport, visa etc). and it is estimated that another 800,000 indonesian immigrants (most probably more) are crossing the border each year to Malaysia. That is not a small number. They came by various routes: the sea, by crossing mountains, wade the jungles, paying money to some party who can bring them secretly, infiltrating Malaysia border. many of them were able to get arrested. but many others succeed to escape. Those whom arrested are meant to be sent home immediately, but almost always, those who were sent back, will return. This has caused a lot of difficulties on Malaysians. So Malaysia built a temporary detainees centre for these immigrants to stay temporarily before they were sent back. in the meanwhile, Malaysia will inform the government of Indonesia to take action, hopefully Indonesian government will assist to bring back their &quot;people&quot;, but in most instances that did not happen. In the end, Malaysian government had suffered big loss in maintaining the centre, and in bearing the cost of their food, medical expenses, providing proper pipe water and electricity etc. All these cost, Malaysia bear them alone.


indonesians immigrants, have caused a lot of problems for Malaysia. Too many of them become robbers, thieves, bugglars (broke into homes and steal peoples&#039; belongings, even many of them commit murders while stealing too). Many cases of rape of Malaysian women by indonesian workers also. Here in my hometown, there are more than a couple of times when we heard Indonesians killing the locals, doing dangerous crimes, keeping sharp weapons. They actually do so many disastrous things that affect Malaysians severely. Many Malaysians have suffered the loss of their belongings and their loved ones. 


While Indonesian maids, although many of them are working just fine, but many of them also create troubles. they beat our children while we are not at home, they put harmful/ dirty ingredients into our food and drinks consciously, they caused our phone bills and electicity charges to rise abruptly, they bring other people to the house while we are out, they seems to work but our homes are not clean, many things are not settled even after hours. There are even cases where they tried to seduce our husbands. These are among things Indonesian maids often do in Malaysia, and they are many more. With all these bad qualities, most Malaysian employers have spent a lot of money for the arrangements of them coming to work with us, even paying very high and unreasonable prices put on us by their agents - not worth with the untrained, bad attitude maids they gave us.  

and about the writer, writing that only by owning a greater military strength than Malaysia, shall Indonesia be respected by us, is totally wrong.  That is not the issue. The actual issue is, Indonesia does not have to be too untouchables. They don&#039;t have to be too sensitive over petty things that are actually can be handled if only they give a bit of sincere cooperation to us. About Ambalat, why don&#039;t Indonesia restrain themselves from making big issue out of it, like what malaysia did. They claimed Ambalat belongs to them, but Malaysia also thinks that way. So why must they act so defensively against Malaysia over this matter? If only they respect Malaysia as their sister country who owns and inherits the same traditions and culture with them, small petty things won&#039;t surface. Malaysia respects Indonesia and always wants to be in harmonious relation with Indonesia, but what we got from Indonesia is only turned back cold shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after reading the above article by this Indonesian PHD student, among things i can say is; even this future professor does not really understand and went much deeper in his understandings about the real cause of this problem. somehow as an Indonesian, he is emotionally driven and carried away. </p>
<p>I, myself, as a Malaysian, shall admit it that in looking into this thing, maybe to some levels, i will tend to defend my own country, Malaysia. but what i can say is, let us look into the problem with a just mind. not by manipulating things to make them appear bigger. </p>
<p>it is obvious as an indonesian, he tends to ignore Malaysia&#8217;s side of the story. or maybe he does not quite know what  is actually happening in our country, caused by indonesian workers. </p>
<p>Indonesian workers in Malaysia, are very well- known as trouble-makers. about 1.2million indonesian workers coming to Malaysia each year using proper documents (pasport, visa etc). and it is estimated that another 800,000 indonesian immigrants (most probably more) are crossing the border each year to Malaysia. That is not a small number. They came by various routes: the sea, by crossing mountains, wade the jungles, paying money to some party who can bring them secretly, infiltrating Malaysia border. many of them were able to get arrested. but many others succeed to escape. Those whom arrested are meant to be sent home immediately, but almost always, those who were sent back, will return. This has caused a lot of difficulties on Malaysians. So Malaysia built a temporary detainees centre for these immigrants to stay temporarily before they were sent back. in the meanwhile, Malaysia will inform the government of Indonesia to take action, hopefully Indonesian government will assist to bring back their &#8220;people&#8221;, but in most instances that did not happen. In the end, Malaysian government had suffered big loss in maintaining the centre, and in bearing the cost of their food, medical expenses, providing proper pipe water and electricity etc. All these cost, Malaysia bear them alone.</p>
<p>indonesians immigrants, have caused a lot of problems for Malaysia. Too many of them become robbers, thieves, bugglars (broke into homes and steal peoples&#8217; belongings, even many of them commit murders while stealing too). Many cases of rape of Malaysian women by indonesian workers also. Here in my hometown, there are more than a couple of times when we heard Indonesians killing the locals, doing dangerous crimes, keeping sharp weapons. They actually do so many disastrous things that affect Malaysians severely. Many Malaysians have suffered the loss of their belongings and their loved ones. </p>
<p>While Indonesian maids, although many of them are working just fine, but many of them also create troubles. they beat our children while we are not at home, they put harmful/ dirty ingredients into our food and drinks consciously, they caused our phone bills and electicity charges to rise abruptly, they bring other people to the house while we are out, they seems to work but our homes are not clean, many things are not settled even after hours. There are even cases where they tried to seduce our husbands. These are among things Indonesian maids often do in Malaysia, and they are many more. With all these bad qualities, most Malaysian employers have spent a lot of money for the arrangements of them coming to work with us, even paying very high and unreasonable prices put on us by their agents &#8211; not worth with the untrained, bad attitude maids they gave us.  </p>
<p>and about the writer, writing that only by owning a greater military strength than Malaysia, shall Indonesia be respected by us, is totally wrong.  That is not the issue. The actual issue is, Indonesia does not have to be too untouchables. They don&#8217;t have to be too sensitive over petty things that are actually can be handled if only they give a bit of sincere cooperation to us. About Ambalat, why don&#8217;t Indonesia restrain themselves from making big issue out of it, like what malaysia did. They claimed Ambalat belongs to them, but Malaysia also thinks that way. So why must they act so defensively against Malaysia over this matter? If only they respect Malaysia as their sister country who owns and inherits the same traditions and culture with them, small petty things won&#8217;t surface. Malaysia respects Indonesia and always wants to be in harmonious relation with Indonesia, but what we got from Indonesia is only turned back cold shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-7825</link>
		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why you are very mean to us? why malaysian employer treated us like shit, according to yeinjee? why they love to harrased indonesian maid and abuse us physically or psycologically? isnt there any way to treat them humanly? why there are thousands of Indonesian in Malaysian detentions for undocumented? why malaysian views us like animal? is that just because we are Indonesian so you treated us like animal? do you know &quot;human rights&quot;? is human rights taught in school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you are very mean to us? why malaysian employer treated us like shit, according to yeinjee? why they love to harrased indonesian maid and abuse us physically or psycologically? isnt there any way to treat them humanly? why there are thousands of Indonesian in Malaysian detentions for undocumented? why malaysian views us like animal? is that just because we are Indonesian so you treated us like animal? do you know &#8220;human rights&#8221;? is human rights taught in school?</p>
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		<title>By: oktavia</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-7824</link>
		<dc:creator>oktavia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yeinjee, i really appreciate your views about Indonesia. you have seen Indonesia in such a many perspective and that makes your view very objective.@xxx, there is no use in comparing Indonesia-malaysia military power. war only benefited those who sell the weapon. and thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yeinjee, i really appreciate your views about Indonesia. you have seen Indonesia in such a many perspective and that makes your view very objective.@xxx, there is no use in comparing Indonesia-malaysia military power. war only benefited those who sell the weapon. and thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: achmad</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-1480</link>
		<dc:creator>achmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indonesia better spend the money to improve its economy and its people rather than being obsessed on military might just for the sake of gaining respect from its neighbours. Indonesia is a large country with bountiful of resource. If you take a look at history, the mighty nations build their economy first before meddling with the idea of intimidating its neighbours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indonesia better spend the money to improve its economy and its people rather than being obsessed on military might just for the sake of gaining respect from its neighbours. Indonesia is a large country with bountiful of resource. If you take a look at history, the mighty nations build their economy first before meddling with the idea of intimidating its neighbours.</p>
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		<title>By: Yein Jee</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-1064</link>
		<dc:creator>Yein Jee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia should work closely with all our neighbours, not just Indonesia, but Singapore, Thailand and Philippines etc.  It&#039;s the era of globalisation...  most of the countries in South East Asia don&#039;t have the power to keep up the pace against the west.

Singapore and Brunei might be rich, but they lack the market (population), while Indonesia despite with more than 200 million people, are seriously lacking in economic development.  If all SEA countries could work closely to help each other, we would be a respectable force in the world...  but sadly, all of these countries are very much on their own at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia should work closely with all our neighbours, not just Indonesia, but Singapore, Thailand and Philippines etc.  It&#8217;s the era of globalisation&#8230;  most of the countries in South East Asia don&#8217;t have the power to keep up the pace against the west.</p>
<p>Singapore and Brunei might be rich, but they lack the market (population), while Indonesia despite with more than 200 million people, are seriously lacking in economic development.  If all SEA countries could work closely to help each other, we would be a respectable force in the world&#8230;  but sadly, all of these countries are very much on their own at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: XxX</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>XxX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well jgnla korang dok gaduh2. perang antara malaysia-indonesia amat mustahil. negara serumpun keluarga pun ada yg berkait di kedua-dua negara macam maner nak perang. 
satu nasihat kat menteri2 indo. jgn la cuba mengeruhkan keadan dgn mengapi-apikan kononnya kekuatan military indonesia bole buat malaysia lebih hormat... 
kalu pun malaysia hormat bukan kerana kekuatan militer indo tapi atas semangat kejiranan. dr segi kekuatan militer, walaupun jumlah askar indo lebih besar tapi malaysia mempunyai sistem yang jauh lebih canggih dari indo. dalam dunia moden skrang  kecanggihan lebih memungkinkan kemenangan dari jumlah askar rame. 
Akan tetapi kalu malaysia-indonesia bersatu hati kedua2 negara ni bisa jadi kuasa yg kuat dia asia tenggara. kemodenan and kecanggihan malaysia di campur saiz kekuatan militer indo yang besar...= memang kuat.
jadi jgn gaduh2 indo-msia saling perlu-memerlukan. abang dan adik gaduh mcm maner pun tetp abg adik jugak...ada paham semua!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well jgnla korang dok gaduh2. perang antara malaysia-indonesia amat mustahil. negara serumpun keluarga pun ada yg berkait di kedua-dua negara macam maner nak perang.<br />
satu nasihat kat menteri2 indo. jgn la cuba mengeruhkan keadan dgn mengapi-apikan kononnya kekuatan military indonesia bole buat malaysia lebih hormat&#8230;<br />
kalu pun malaysia hormat bukan kerana kekuatan militer indo tapi atas semangat kejiranan. dr segi kekuatan militer, walaupun jumlah askar indo lebih besar tapi malaysia mempunyai sistem yang jauh lebih canggih dari indo. dalam dunia moden skrang  kecanggihan lebih memungkinkan kemenangan dari jumlah askar rame.<br />
Akan tetapi kalu malaysia-indonesia bersatu hati kedua2 negara ni bisa jadi kuasa yg kuat dia asia tenggara. kemodenan and kecanggihan malaysia di campur saiz kekuatan militer indo yang besar&#8230;= memang kuat.<br />
jadi jgn gaduh2 indo-msia saling perlu-memerlukan. abang dan adik gaduh mcm maner pun tetp abg adik jugak&#8230;ada paham semua!</p>
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		<title>By: kai</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator>kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 06:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>untuk ffad...siapapun nama kampret mu itu....
kalau cakap tolong fikir baik baik,,,mungkin ko punya otak tapi otak ko tu dah kena brain damage,,,,
baiknya ko pergi k dokter....
asal ko tau konfrontasi terjadi karena negara ko tu telah membuat perjanjian dengan london sebelum election selesai....KO TAU TAK BODOH!!!!!!
jangan asal ko cakap....
aku tak baca pun article diatas ni...
bukan ko saja yang bisa marah..orang indonesia LEBIH marah lagi atas penghinaan yang ko kalian lakukan terhadap indonesia,...
ko lupa???
siapa yang mendatangkan guru untuk membantu MENCERDASKAN MALAYSIA..????
siapa?????????????????
matamu?? hah??
babi ko!!!!
satu lagi..
jangan panggil kami INDON
karna aku rasa kau sangat rendah,,,
aku merasa kasihan dekat ko..
karena kalian hanya bisa berlindung dibawah lindungan negara kalian..
yang membangun malaysia itu: CHINESE AND INDIAN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>untuk ffad&#8230;siapapun nama kampret mu itu&#8230;.<br />
kalau cakap tolong fikir baik baik,,,mungkin ko punya otak tapi otak ko tu dah kena brain damage,,,,<br />
baiknya ko pergi k dokter&#8230;.<br />
asal ko tau konfrontasi terjadi karena negara ko tu telah membuat perjanjian dengan london sebelum election selesai&#8230;.KO TAU TAK BODOH!!!!!!<br />
jangan asal ko cakap&#8230;.<br />
aku tak baca pun article diatas ni&#8230;<br />
bukan ko saja yang bisa marah..orang indonesia LEBIH marah lagi atas penghinaan yang ko kalian lakukan terhadap indonesia,&#8230;<br />
ko lupa???<br />
siapa yang mendatangkan guru untuk membantu MENCERDASKAN MALAYSIA..????<br />
siapa?????????????????<br />
matamu?? hah??<br />
babi ko!!!!<br />
satu lagi..<br />
jangan panggil kami INDON<br />
karna aku rasa kau sangat rendah,,,<br />
aku merasa kasihan dekat ko..<br />
karena kalian hanya bisa berlindung dibawah lindungan negara kalian..<br />
yang membangun malaysia itu: CHINESE AND INDIAN.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging and the Political Authority: Case of Nila Tanzil and Tengku Adnan - Journal by Marisa Duma</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogging and the Political Authority: Case of Nila Tanzil and Tengku Adnan - Journal by Marisa Duma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Malaysia-Indonesia Relationship by Yein Jee [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ffad</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>ffad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...did i write bm correctly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;did i write bm correctly?</p>
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		<title>By: ffad</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>ffad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>indo, bukan cakap apa,...globalasi sekini telah memenuhi segala yang terkuruni, jangan ingat macam dulu, dunia bukan engkau punya. kalau nak main &quot;konfrontasi&quot; seperti yang dahulu...fikir dengan otak baik yang sempurna.

Pissed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indo, bukan cakap apa,&#8230;globalasi sekini telah memenuhi segala yang terkuruni, jangan ingat macam dulu, dunia bukan engkau punya. kalau nak main &#8220;konfrontasi&#8221; seperti yang dahulu&#8230;fikir dengan otak baik yang sempurna.</p>
<p>Pissed!</p>
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		<title>By: ffad</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>ffad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Diaz Hendropriyono,
otak engkaulah yang tak berfungsi.
macammana boleh anda &quot;threathen&quot; malaysia dari soal yang tak berkaitan, dengan cakapan seberikutan atau &quot;hina dari malaysia&quot; yang tak masuk otak dengan realiti?. Tengok sendiri lah dulu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Diaz Hendropriyono,<br />
otak engkaulah yang tak berfungsi.<br />
macammana boleh anda &#8220;threathen&#8221; malaysia dari soal yang tak berkaitan, dengan cakapan seberikutan atau &#8220;hina dari malaysia&#8221; yang tak masuk otak dengan realiti?. Tengok sendiri lah dulu.</p>
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		<title>By: ffad</title>
		<link>http://yeinjee.com/malaysia/2007/malaysia-indonesia-relationship/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>ffad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betulbetulcakap...saya amat suka indons, betul!, tapi jangan main soal national. 

Tak payahlah mari malaysia sedangkan kita tak suka kamu (yang diperkatakan), kita ada pilihan punya..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betulbetulcakap&#8230;saya amat suka indons, betul!, tapi jangan main soal national. </p>
<p>Tak payahlah mari malaysia sedangkan kita tak suka kamu (yang diperkatakan), kita ada pilihan punya..</p>
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